Who Thought We'd Be Here?

"New Levels, New Devils – Why Consistency & Accountability Still Matter To Us" | EP056

Steven Aigner and John Pugh Season 1 Episode 56

In this episode, we reflect on the challenge of maintaining consistency and accountability in both the podcast and everyday life. We share our experience in a sensory deprivation tank in preparation for an upcoming episode, while we discuss the importance of movement, yoga, and staying active—especially as Steve sets his goal to be in top shape before the baby arrives.

We dive into the mental struggles of content creation, the discipline of journaling, and insights from The Daily Stoic and The Celestine Prophecy. The conversation turns to therapy, the power of men opening up about their emotions, and how understanding control dramas can reshape relationships.

From the necessity of breathwork and mindfulness to battling rumination and self-doubt, we explore the reality that growth never truly ends—"new levels, new devils." We also touch on the idea that moving to a new place won’t fix your problems if you bring the same mindset with you. And in a lighter moment, Eleanor gets cast as the perfect tea kettle for Beauty and the Beast.

Finally, we discuss addiction beyond substances, the importance of steadiness in the face of anger, and remind you (and ourselves) to get your shit together—@Whoop, we’re looking at you.

0:00 trying to regain consistency and accountability in the podcast

1:00 sensory deprivation tank experience for upcoming Kelta podcast

5:00 what it feels like to be 056 episodes in

8:00 the importance of movement, and the accountability of going to yoga

10:30 Steve wants to be jacked by the time the baby comes

12:00 Josh Brolin on the Daily Stoic and finding 5 minutes in the morning for the basics like journaling

14:00 the struggle of wanting to make content and the work that goes into it

15:30 Reading “The Celestine Prophecy”, control dramas, and “The Body Keeps the Score”

16:30 trying to figure out therapy and the power of men talking about therapy and their feelings

26:00 being flexible in your habits and flowing through your routine

32:00 Using tools like breath work instead of wallowing

34:00 “sometimes the hardest thing to do is just doing what you’re supposed to do”

37:00 avoiding rumination by pausing and being present

39:40 “new levels, new devils”

42:30 the battles never end, they just get a little easier

45:00 you could move to another city, but you’re still bring you with you

50:00 Eleanor would make a good tea kettle in the beauty and the beast

51:30 the importance of steadiness and being calm in the face of anger

53:00 addiction isn’t just drugs and alcohol

55:00 Get your shit together @whoop




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