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Who Thought We'd Be Here?
Both seeking answers from the Universe as they turned 30, co-hosts and longtime pals Steven Aigner and John Pugh found themselves improving in ways their younger and much more wild selves could have never seen coming. They began conquering and healing their past selves with unfamiliar mindfulness tools like meditation, yoga, breath-work, journaling, reading transformative books, and experimenting with mind expanding remedies.
Ignited by a passion to help others struggling with complex problems of their own and a desire to create a new narrative surrounding men's mental health in today's modern society, they created their first collaborative podcast "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" This podcast is all about exploring the boundless potential within ourselves, and to inspire each and every one of us to be fearless in our own unique human experience.
Their goal is to make mindfulness more accessible for folks all around the world, and express the genuine benefits of redesigning your life in a more thoughtful way.
We'd love for you to join us on this spiritual journey, as we try to shine a little light into what it really and truly means to be a good human in this Universe.
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Who Thought We'd Be Here?
How to Heal Your Trauma, Elevate Your Energy & Vibrate Higher w/ Herbalist Jess Kravit | EP065
In this episode, we sit down with Jess Kravit, founder of Exalted Alchemy, to dive deep into the world of herbalism, natural wellness, entrepreneurship, and energetic healing. Jess breaks down what it really means to be a clinical herbalist in a modern world that’s both disconnected from nature and hungry for authenticity.
From her journey with food-as-medicine and flower essences to the intentional, vibe-rich creation of her skincare, tinctures, and candles, Jess shares how she’s built a business that feels like an extension of self — and how she's learned to separate her identity from her brand. The conversation covers everything from garlic’s antiviral powers to the FDA's impact on herbalists, flower essence therapy, and the real energy behind making something by hand.
00:00 – Intro & Meet Jess
00:01:11 – The Reality of Running a Product-Based Business
00:03:39 – Community & Entrepreneurial Friendships
00:04:58 – Herbalism Origins: From Vegetarianism to Clinical Study
00:07:03 – Toxic Skincare & Ingredient Awareness
00:08:25 – Food Disconnection & the Pharma Parallel
00:10:02 – Taste as Medicine: Why Capsules Aren’t Enough
00:11:34 – Exalted Alchemy Product Overview
00:13:03 – Skincare, Naming Products & Childhood Dreams
00:16:05 – Developing Ritual Products & Specialty Collaborations
00:17:36 – Top Go-To Herbs: Nettles, Elderberry & Garlic
00:20:01 – Garlic Suppositories & Alternative Treatments
00:21:27 – The Legal Limits of Herbalists
00:24:01 – Herbalism Is Ancestral Memory
00:25:21 – Customer Education & Skepticism
00:28:18 – Product Matching for Mental Health
00:31:11 – Flower Essences vs. Herbal Remedies
00:34:10 – Saint John’s Wort & Nerve Support
00:35:38 – Infusing Brand with Personality — and Separating from It
00:38:25 – Vibes, Intention & Energy in Products
00:41:15 – Making Tinctures, Face Oils & Energetic Skincare
00:44:16 – Flower Essences: How They’re Made
00:47:09 – Mental Health & Emotional Healing with Flower Essences
00:54:04 – From Survival to Thriving with Plants
00:58:11 – Live Demo: Grounding Spray Experience
01:00:16 – Candle Rituals & Gemini Moon Energy
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