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Who Thought We'd Be Here?
Both seeking answers from the Universe as they turned 30, co-hosts and longtime pals Steven Aigner and John Pugh found themselves improving in ways their younger and much more wild selves could have never seen coming. They began conquering and healing their past selves with unfamiliar mindfulness tools like meditation, yoga, breath-work, journaling, reading transformative books, and experimenting with mind expanding remedies.
Ignited by a passion to help others struggling with complex problems of their own and a desire to create a new narrative surrounding men's mental health in today's modern society, they created their first collaborative podcast "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" This podcast is all about exploring the boundless potential within ourselves, and to inspire each and every one of us to be fearless in our own unique human experience.
Their goal is to make mindfulness more accessible for folks all around the world, and express the genuine benefits of redesigning your life in a more thoughtful way.
We'd love for you to join us on this spiritual journey, as we try to shine a little light into what it really and truly means to be a good human in this Universe.
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A mental health podcast with two guys who never would have thought they'd be here podcasting. Hosted by Steven Aigner (@_itssteve__) & John Pugh (@jay_pugh).
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Who Thought We'd Be Here?
Michael Chernow - An INSPIRING Story of Conquering Addiction & Lessons from 20+ Years of Sobriety | EP071
Michael Chernow — restaurateur, entrepreneur, endurance athlete, and founder of Kreatures of Habit — joins us for a brutally honest conversation about addiction, recovery, discipline, and building a life worth living.From running some of New York City’s most iconic restaurants to hitting rock bottom with drugs and alcohol, Michael’s journey is a masterclass in transformation. He shares the moment he realized, “I’m gonna die. I hate myself,” and how that pain became the catalyst for an entirely new way of living. We go deep into what sobriety really means — and why quitting drinking or drugs is only step one. Michael breaks down the routines, mindset shifts, and non-negotiables that keep him on track:
- Why discipline beats motivation every time
- The morning routine that builds your “foundation” for the day
- The 3 C’s that guide his life — Commitment, Confidence, and Courage
- How community and accountability play a vital role in staying sober
- Why entrepreneurship is about people, not just profit
- The story behind Kreatures of Habit and his newest product launch
Follow Michael on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/michaelchernow/
And visit the Kreatures of Habit website here: https://kreaturesofhabit.com/
3:00 – Restaurants and cocaine
5:45 – Life is pain
6:30 – Self-proclaimed savage; life is pure sober
8:30 – Glass half full; wine sales down 40%
9:30 – School picture policy; getting off phones
12:00 – Boundaries around quality time; work/life balance
14:00 – True wealth is the people you love
15:20 – Entrepreneur mindset: “Who am I working 14 hours a day for?”
20:00 – Happiness in Denmark and work policies
22:00 – Purpose is love, not just drive
25:00 – Sobriety advice: stay in the present moment
26:45 – Building your foundation in the morning
28:30 – “Don’t trip at the starting line” — I am a miracle
30:00 – Your brain on alcoholism
31:30 – Doing what you say as a superpower
35:15 – Guilt from the past
40:00 – Calling the man who saved my life on my sober anniversary
41:45 – The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
43:00 – Relationship with God and dealing with fear
46:00 – We are built to endure hard things
47:00 – Turning up your awareness
50:00 – “I’m gonna die. I hate myself” — Michael’s rock bottom
54:00 – Daily routine for sobriety
1:01:30 – Diet & exercise: The 3 C’s (Commitment, Confidence, Courage)
1:04:00 – AA meetings daily
1:06:10 – Community in sobriety
1:08:00 – Story of Kreatures of Habit
1:12:00 – Crowdfunding a business venture
1:14:30 – Tony Robbins: “All you need is 100 raving fans”
1:15:30 – Kreatures of Habit protein bar announcement
1:17:00 – Closing
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"Who Thought We'd Be Here?" is hosted by Steven Aigner and John Pugh.
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