Who Thought We'd Be Here?
Both seeking answers from the Universe as they turned 30, co-hosts and longtime pals Steven Aigner and John Pugh found themselves improving in ways their younger and much more wild selves could have never seen coming. They began conquering and healing their past selves with unfamiliar mindfulness tools like meditation, yoga, breath-work, journaling, reading transformative books, and experimenting with mind expanding remedies.
Ignited by a passion to help others struggling with complex problems of their own and a desire to create a new narrative surrounding men's mental health in today's modern society, they created their first collaborative podcast "Who Thought We'd Be Here?" This podcast is all about exploring the boundless potential within ourselves, and to inspire each and every one of us to be fearless in our own unique human experience.
Their goal is to make mindfulness more accessible for folks all around the world, and express the genuine benefits of redesigning your life in a more thoughtful way.
We'd love for you to join us on this spiritual journey, as we try to shine a little light into what it really and truly means to be a good human in this Universe.
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A mental health podcast with two guys who never would have thought they'd be here podcasting. Hosted by Steven Aigner (@_itssteve__) & John Pugh (@jay_pugh).
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Who Thought We'd Be Here?
From Childhood Grief to Running Marathons: How I Became the Man I Always Needed When I Was a Kid | EP079
In this deeply personal and motivating conversation, marathon runner Ryan Carney opens up about the experiences that shaped him — from getting cut from his childhood soccer team, to losing his father at just ten years old, to discovering running as a lifeline, a discipline, and eventually a mission.
Ryan shares how running became the place where he could confront grief, build identity, and learn who he truly was. He explains why he believes running is the only sport where everyday people can truly measure themselves against the best in the world, and why “never finding your ceiling” is what keeps him pushing harder.
The episode dives into fatherhood, resiliency, and mental health as Ryan reveals the real stories behind his self-belief: the shame of hiding his father’s death as a kid, the lessons his mother taught him about holding pain, and how running became both therapy and purpose. He talks about burnout, discipline, and the myth that fitness can fix everything — emphasizing that running alone doesn’t solve mental health struggles.
By the end, Ryan reflects on what it means to show up for your kids, how self-belief borders on healthy delusion, and why ordinary people can accomplish extraordinary things by simply — and consistently — taking the next step.
It’s raw, emotional, inspiring, and a powerful look at what running, fatherhood, and healing truly teach us.
You can find Ryan on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/ryjcarney/
As well as the Hudson Valley Track Club: https://www.instagram.com/hudsonvalleytrackclub/
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